kongai2010 发表于 2010-6-3 14:53

希望置顶:帮恐SY的人终极解恐(翻译美国权威专家的话)

本人是个恐友,极恐的那种,最近也在疯狂的查资料,看了这个论坛上的Q哥、仁哥等专家以前的帖子,感觉好了很多。又看到有恐友推荐的medhelp论坛,上去看了看,感觉安心了好多,为了感谢大家的无私奉献,我也尽点我的绵薄之力,翻译了下一些国外权威网站的信息,帮助手淫的恐友解恐。本人是推油被动手淫,8天后发烧3天,其他的不多说了。翻译信息如下:

Medhelp是个专业网站,和一些美国的研究机构和大学合作

H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D.(http://www.medhelp.org/doctor_profiles/show/239123),华盛顿大学教授,教育情况不多说了,以下是他的经历
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International Society for STD Research (President, 2005-2007; Board of Directors, 2005-present)
国际性传播疾病(STD)研究协会(主席,2005-2007;委员,2005-今)
American Sexually Transmitted Diseases Association (President, 1981-1983)
美国性传播疾病协会(主席,1981-1983)
Infectious Diseases Society of America
美国传染疾病协会
International Union against Sexually Transmitted Infections (Board of Directors, 2005-present)
反性传播感染国际联盟(委员,2005-今)
American Social Health Association (Board of Directors, 2008-present)
美国公共健康协会(委员,2008-今)

kongai2010 发表于 2010-6-3 14:54

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http://www.medhelp.org/health_chats/archive/9(这个一个关于Aids访谈的专题,我只翻译了手淫的部分)

H. Hunter Handsfield, MD:
Mutual masturbation carries no risk whatsoever, and as described many times on the forum, symptoms never are useful indicators of new HIV infection.Almost every symptom that humans can experience can be caused by HIV.Most such symptoms are due to other, much more common things.That applies here.
翻译:互相手淫不管怎样都没有风险,而且已经在论坛上说过多次,症状对HIV从来不是一个有意义的信号。几乎所有人类经历的症状都可以是由HIV引起的。绝大多数的症状是因为其他的比较常见的事情引起的。此处皆同。
注:其实还看到一个经典的帖子,2人互相SY,且用精液当润滑济手淫自己,对此Dr.HHH说手淫在任何情况下,包括沾上对方刚射出的JY或YD分泌物都不会有感染的风险,但他回答的帖子太多,我找不到那个了。

kongai2010 发表于 2010-6-3 14:54

Edward W Hook, MD(http://www.medhelp.org/doctor_profiles/show/300980),这个专家也很牛,别的经历不说了,只看这个
2002-2006 - Best Doctors in America, Infectious Diseases,2002-2006,获得全美最佳传染病医生奖
他的回答的帖子(http://www.medhelp.org/posts/HIV-Prevention/semen-contact-from-finger/show/545523)
提问:
I am a gay male who had 2 instances of sexual contact with 2 differnet men of unknown hiv staus. There was no oral or anal sex but there was mutual masturbation both on ourselves and each other. During and after masturbation my partner inserted his finger in my rectumfor a few minutes with in and out massage movement of the finger in lieu of actual anal sex . Is there any risk of Hiv transmission or hepatitisfrom his semen being present on his finger   from ejaculation being inserted in my rectum.
翻译:
我是个男同,最近有2例和不知道HIV情况的人有性接触。没有进行KJ和GJ,但互相手淫自己和对方。之后对方把他的手指插到我的G门里抽动代替G交。这样有感染HIV的风险吗,因为他的手上有JY又送到我的G门里。
回答:
None whatsoever.You were participating in mutual masturbation - safe sex.In the course of masturbation it is normal more small amounts of genital secretions to be spread from person to person yet neither STD nor HIV transmission occurs in this setting.This is a consequence of the fact that the amount of secretions transferred isminiscule and the fact that HIV and STD pathogens are not very "hardy" and die quickly following exposure to air.This exposure does not require testing or any concern on your part.EWH
不管怎样都不会。你们做的是互相手淫=安全性行为。在手淫过程中,双方阴茎的分泌物互相粘到是很平常的情况,但从没有STD(性传染病)或HIV通过这种途径传播。这是因为这样的量是很少的,而且HIV或STD病毒不是很“健壮”,暴露在空气中会很快死去。这种暴露不需要检测和任何的担心。EWH

kongai2010 发表于 2010-6-3 14:55

这个是来自www.aids.org,权威性可能不如medhelp
http://www.aids.org/factsheets/150-Stopping-the-Spread-of-HIV.html(来自www.aids.org)
Sexual Activity
You can avoid any risk of HIV if you practice abstinence (not having sex). You also won't get infected if your penis, mouth, vagina or rectum doesn't touch anyone else's penis, mouth, vagina, or rectum. Safe activities include kissing, erotic massage, masturbation or hand jobs (mutual masturbation).

翻译:如果禁欲不会有感染HIV的风险。如果你不用自己的阴茎、嘴、阴道、直肠触碰别人的阴茎、嘴、阴道和直肠也不会得。安全的性行为包括接吻、色情按摩、手淫或互相手淫。

傻子111 发表于 2010-6-3 18:12

强烈要求此贴置顶,为恐手淫的恐友解脱!!!
感谢楼主!

magicy99 发表于 2010-6-3 19:12

回复 4# kongai2010


    阴茎接触阴唇怎么解释

daoci 发表于 2010-6-3 19:47

回复 1# kongai2010


    请问有没有男为女手淫的?就是男手指插入女阴道?好像文章里没提到哦

傻子111 发表于 2010-6-3 20:28

回复 7# daoci


    咱们情况一样
"互相手淫不管怎样都没有风险,而且已经在论坛上说过多次,症状对HIV从来不是一个有意义的信号"
互相的意思就有男为女手淫

gsywin001 发表于 2010-6-3 21:38

本来手淫就是安全行行为 不管是途了分泌物的 或者手上有伤口 或者害怕黏膜看不破损的
想让手淫传染只有一种可能 就是找个HIV小姐 让她割破手 把鲜血涂满JJ 再给你手淫 这样或许会有传染机会

傻子111 发表于 2010-6-3 21:52

回复 9# gsywin001


    感谢你让我逐步脱恐,,,
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