关于无套口交行为感染hiv的风险，我摘录的权威专家的语录

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回复 20# 13708199718


    仁心版主发的新闻的确存在，但是这个大会本身使用的例子没有可说服性。不能算是假新闻但是也不能算是证据，因为据我所知很多国外的专家对这个大会所得的结论并不认同。QQ版主毕竟有很多事情，你没看他最近都没怎么上论坛来么？

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回复 21# 不明白


    哦，但是我看了别的网站说的是，只要小姐有口腔溃疡和出鲜血，我小弟弟有一点点的破损都会感染艾滋病的，你这么说我的小弟弟有破损也不会感染，希望你看了不要生气，你那个报道，真的可靠嘛，还是你和我说的那些全部是你自己的看法

责任感

根据迄今最为权威性的关于口交传播艾滋病病毒危险性的研究，口交传播艾滋病病毒的危险比专家们预计的要高。昨天在“第七次逆转录病毒和机会性感染大会”上发言的研究人员说，在一项对102名新近感染艾滋病病毒的同性恋和双性恋男子可能的传播方式的研究中，8%的感染因为进行了没有保护的口腔性jiao。
　　来自美国“疾病控制和预防中心”和“加州大学旧金山分校”的研究人员说，虽然过去有一些关于口交传染性的报告，但是新的诊断试验让他们可以确定感染的时间。为确定感染途径，研究人员花费很多精力，他们利用了医学记录，和这些男人们访谈，并在可能的情况下，和他们的伴侣谈话。
　　虽然许多卫生官员一直怀疑口腔性jiao有一定的传播艾滋病病毒的危险，但是一些研究人员还是为他们研究结果的
　　重要性而惊讶。“这比我们以为的要高一些，这可能是和男人发生性关系的男人被感染的重要途径，”加州大学旧金山分校的研究人员Frederick Hecht博士这样说道，“没有保护的肛门性jiao比前些年少多了，但是没有保护的口腔性jiao没有出现类似的下降，这可能已经成为艾滋病病毒传播的重要方式。”但是，他解释道，参与没有保护的肛门性jiao(接受方)感染艾滋病病毒的危险性可以是(口腔性jiao)的100倍(USA Today, 2/2)。疾病控制和预防中心艾滋病预防中心副主任Ronald Valdiserri博士说，“这肯定是个令人敬畏的消息。我们已经知道，口交有传播艾滋病病毒的危险。他补充道，口交传播艾滋病病毒并不需要一个破裂的伤口或出血的牙龈，因为“极小的口子和擦伤就可能成为病毒进入的门户。”


以上是仁心仁术老师在 发表于 2007-5-28 08:59 | 只看该作者
口交感染艾滋病的风险有多大？迄今最为权威性的关于口交感染危险性的研究

的帖子中贴出的,请问我该相信哪个啊!!!帮帮忙啊!!!

我也是WTKJ,我晕死了!!

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回复 24# 责任感


  绝大多数的认为wtkj可以传染hiv的人根据都是这则消息，这个消息以前tgfcer也做过说明，本身这个消息中使用的样本数量不足而且调查具有严重的漏洞，对此有更大的反例：美国和澳洲的联合试验，对于美国1500对人（3000个）一方感染者，一方正常人进行口交最终结果是无一人感染，西班牙长达十多年的追踪也没有发现。19000次无保护口交(一方是阳性)没有感染...

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回复 25# 不明白


    你说的那些实验室真的？19000例这个例子哪来的？可靠吗

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老外写的不错

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Edward W Hook, MD和病人的回话， ORAL SEX 他的回答 基本都是这样。。

病人：
Dear  Doctor
I have a exposure 12 weeks ago I am from Asia live in US . so my exposure is 11 weeks go  I received unprotected oral sexBuccal smear
Causes of sexual dysfunction
Child abuse - sexual
Delayed ejaculation
Erection problems
Female sexual dysfunction
Inhibited sexual desire
Orgasmic dysfunction
Puberty and adolescence
Safe sex
Sexual intercourse - painful from a femaleCondoms
Female condoms
Female sexual dysfunction sexBuccal smear
Causes of sexual dysfunction
Child abuse - sexual
Delayed ejaculation
Erection problems
Female sexual dysfunction
Inhibited sexual desire
Orgasmic dysfunction
Puberty and adolescence
Safe sex
Sexual intercourse - painful worker ( i went to massage place in shothwest Asian )she give me a blow job about ten minutes and I did not notice any blood or sores on her .i cum in her mouth . I also fingered her. My handHand or foot spasms
Hand tremor had her vaginalAnterior vaginal wall repair
Causes of vaginal itching
Culture - endocervix
Transvaginal ultrasound
Vaginal bleeding between periods
Vaginal bleeding during pregnancy
Vaginal bleeding in pregnancy
Vaginal cysts
Vaginal dryness treatment
Vaginal ring
Vaginal tumors fluids  , after that i clean my penisCancer - penis
Curvature of the penis
Penis care (uncircumcised)
Penis pain by hand i just touch her vaginal fluids.

1. what if the girl H+ ,and blood in her mouth , am i risk ? i am uncircumcised may be more high risk

2. what different between cum and not cum for receiving oral sex ?

Today i received my result i test at 11 weeks and 4 days after exposure .
The result is :

Test Name : HIV AB , HIV 1/2, EIA , WITH , REFLEXES HIV 1/2 EIA AB SCREEN ,
the result said A Nonreactive HIV-1/2 antibody result does not exclude HIV infection since the time frame for seroconversion is variable , If acute HIV infection is suspected , antibody retesting and nucleic acid amplification (HIV DNA/ RNA) testing is recommended .

1.I am confusing why they recommended another HIV DNA test ? I don't know what is test they did for me ? is it ELISA antibody test that the people usually have ?

2. Can you give me a advices what should i do ? do i test retesting as they recommended me ?

3. How's safe I am at 11 weeks and 4 days Nonreactive tested,

4. Is it safe if i have sex unprotected with my wife , I didn't have sex with my wife after i had exposure because i don't want infected my wife,

That all question I need to ask you Doctor ,

thanks

大概意思是 他来自亚洲，和性工作者有口交，和手指插入..
问会不会感染HIV

医生回答：
You have nothing to worry about.

It is statistically unlikely that your partner had HIV.

Even if she did, HIV is not spread by masturbation and the quoted figure for HIV risk, if one has oral sex with an infected partner is less than 1 in 10,000 and, in my estimation that is too high. Some experts state there is no risk at all from oral sex.  Neither of us on this site have ever seen or reading the medical literature of a convincing instance in which HIV was passed by oral sex.
我觉得他的回答相当保守，
口交被传染几率他认为是1/10000，他觉得应该比这还要低。很多专家相信，口交是没有风险的行为，并且，世界上没有一个值得相信的列证，是通过口交传播的。
This includes by all of the people who had sores, blood in the mouth, gum disease, etc.

In addition, you have a negative HIV test at a time when all HIV infections acquired 11.5 weeks ago would be positive.  For you to have an HIV PCR test at this time is not needed and would be a waste of money.  The only thing it would do is make money for the laboratory.   

医生的回答就是这样，并且这问题已经被问烂了，医生都是以这样的方式告诉询问者。